|
Naomi
Kawase
Naomi
Kawase was only 27 when she won the Camera d'Or at Cannes
97 and the FIPRESCI Prize at Rotterdam for her first feature
film Moe no suzaku. Independently produced by young
prolific producer Sento Takenori (who was to become her husband),
with a splendid Super 16mm cinematography by veteran Masaki
Tamura (Himatsuri, Tampopo, Eureka...),
Moe no suzaku made Naomi Kawase one of the hottest
newcoming directors in Japan, and one of the very few female
directors in the limelight with, to a lesser extent, Naoe
Gozu (Oshima 99), Tomoko Fujiwara (Louise: Her Departure
on a Journey), Hisako Matsui (Yukie), Sachi Hamano
(Midori) and Shimako Sato (Tale of the Vampire)
- only 15 of the approximately 500 directors who are members
of the Directors Guild of Japan.
What
further distinguishes Naomi Kawase is the fact that she is
not from Tokyo - she is from Nara, an area rich with palaces,
temples, shrines and dwellings, where Kawase's non-urban cinema,
dealing with tradition, roots, identity, past and present,
can soar naturally. "After Suzaku, people thought
of me as a peaceful person" she said in the Japanese
Vogue. "But Hotaru
is closer to myself. I wanted to make a film like Betty
Blue or Empire of the Senses, that had an acute
pain of love." In that sense, Hotaru emerged as
a poignant love story between a stripper and a ceramist in
the beautiful, lamenting landscapes of Nara. "Cinema
is the mirror which reflects my sentiments" adds Kawase.
Hotaru won the FIPRESCI prize at Locarno
2000 "for the intensity and originality of its personal
and universal approach towards the conflict between tradition
and modernity."
Did
the prizes you got at Cannes and Rotterdam for Moe no
Suzaku change a lot of things in your career?
They
became a great strength for my following projects. Hotaru
was made with a budget twice the size of Suzaku and
I was able to work on it for one year.
Before
this second feature film, you went on to make a strange documentary,
Mange-kyo...
I
wanted to separate myself from the world that I had created
with Moe no suzaku, and return to myself and my roots
and that's how I came to make a documentary called The
Weald, and then Mange-kyo which was screened at
Marseille last year.
What
is The Weald?
You
can call it the alternative to Suzaku. I shot it in
the same location as for Suzaku, it's about six families
living in that area, I did most of the camerawork, a lot of
it was super 8.
Before
Moe no Suzaku, you were known as an experimental filmmaker
and documentary filmmaker. How do you situate yourself in
the Japanese experimental scene?
I
don't know exactly where I stand! I can only say that my name
is known around these circles and that young people who have
seen my work are inspired to make their own.
Have
you taught in film schools?
Yes,
my background includes four years of teaching in a film school.
It was a specialized school for film and visual arts. There
I was able to work with students and make experimental films
and short films. Now I've stopped teaching there regularly
but there are many universities and institutions that ask
me to come and participate in their conferences.
What
do you tell aspiring filmmakers?
Whether
big or small, all films are films, you must as a filmmaker
do the best you can within your own limits and fight for it.
There is neither a situation or a place that will give you
what you want, you have to go out and do it yourself, it's
a matter of your own self will. So that's what I say to my
students.
In
Mange-kyo, you were looking for a conflict with photographer
Arimoto Shinji in the process of making the film. But Arimoto
Shinji didn't put up much fight. Are you nonetheless satisfied
with your "opponent"?
I
think he was the right choice. I was actually anticipating
the weakness that came out in him. It's a weak point that
is actually a very crucial part of all forms of expression.
Why
does Mika Mifune, the daughter of Toshiro Mifune, disappear
so fast from the film?
There's
something about Mika's background that she cannot control.
She's the daughter of a big star, and her mother was also
controlling her schedule. These two factors didn't allow her
the freedom that we would have liked to have in the film.
She was allowed to come to the shooting for three days only,
so in that sense I could say that as a filmmaker I was not
able to work with her as much as I wanted.
Was
it also a failure for her photographer Arimoto Shinji?
We
both couldn't get into her as deeply as we wanted, so in that
sense you could say it was a failure for both. But I do believe
that something is appearing in the film about her, so perhaps
it's not such a failure...
Hotaru,
the tile of your second feature film, means fireflies. Do
these glowing insects belong to your childhood memories?
As
you know, Japan developed very quickly into an industrial
country, and I myself grew up in a countryside area where
fireflies were disappearing because of that development. So
they aren't really one of my childhood memories
Have
you seen Hotaru no Haka? (Grave of the Fireflies,
Isao Takahata, 1988)
I
see what you mean, but I haven't.
Would
you say that Hotaru, with its epic 2h30 duration, is to be
the top of your career?
I'd
rather say that it is the beginning... (smiles)
Did
you put a lot of yourself into the character of Ayako?
I
certainly felt a great kinship with this character, and you
might say that we found an echo in each other...
I
think that your way of filming women's faces is extraordinary...
Yuko Nakamura is as unforgettable in Hotaru as Machiko
Ono is in Suzaku and Mange-kyo...
When
I cast my actresses, I usually pay a lot of attention to their
faces. Their faces, the intensity in their eyes is what interests
me most.
more
interview
|