Berlin International Film Festival | 14 February

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Interviews: Paul Thomas Anderson

Nick Roddick, Moving Pictures veteran interviewer, will be interviewing the well-known and the budding new talent, as well as the other key players at this 50th Berlinale edition.

Paul Thomas Anderson

The director of Oscar-hopeful Magnolia and champion of 'New Hollywood' talks to Nick Roddick about three-hour movies, Burt Reynolds and Tom Cruise.

It starts off badly but gets better. "Tom, it's for you," says the female voice that answers the phone. There is a pause.

"Hello?" says a male voice.

"Hi, Tom," I say, trained in (as I think) the etiquette of instant Californian familiarity.

Another pause.

"You may call me Paul," says the male voice.

Etiquette apart, both are correct: the speaker is Paul Thomas Anderson, the face (or, in this case, the voice) of New Hollywood ­ the guy who has managed to get New Line to stump up for not one, but two three-hour movies. First there was Boogie Nights, now there is Magnolia, which screens here today.

Even more interestingly, Anderson consistently casts a lot of people many Old Hollywood directors would be happy to get. Plus, in the case of the critically lauded and Oscar-touted Magnolia, Tom Cruise.

Anderson ­ who has described his new film as essentially a small and intimate movie, except that "it took 200 pages and 90 days to get the right amount of small and intimate" ­ is unabashed about the whole 180-minute thing.

"I regard the three-hour movie as a genre in its own right," he says. "There are westerns, comedies, action movies ­ and then there's the three-hour movie. I tell people they should go and see them because it costs the same amount of money to get in as it does for a two-hour movie."

And he is emphatically not impressed by recent comments from a renowned industry observer to the effect that Anderson was a pretty smart guy who had, however, never learned how to tell a story in under three hours. Which, the implication went, was not very grown-up of him.

"And he's never found a studio at which he could be successful," says Anderson, with a quick comeback that suggests he may have said this before. On the other hand, most of his comebacks are pretty quick, so perhaps he hasn't.

"I was told a story once about him going onto the set of a Hal Ashby movie and Ashby walking off and refusing to start shooting again until he had left," Anderson continues.

There is, as you may infer, little love lost between the Old Hollywood and the New.

Fortunately, Anderson has a supporter in the form of New Line production chief Mike DeLucca, who put his weight behind Anderson's Boogie Nights, his first three-hour feature, and did the same for Magnolia.

The latter, meanwhile, which ought to get a few Oscar nods come tomorrow, features not just modern Hollywood royalty in the form of Cruise, but Old Hollywood aristocracy as well, in the redoubtable shape of Jason Robards.

Taking its title from the street off which most of the characters live, Magnolia tells a series of overlapping stories which have to do with the need to find the human values behind the deceits and rampant ambitions of life in the San Fernando Valley, that former orange grove turned endless smog-bleached suburbia.

Anderson himself was born there in Studio City in 1970 and has always considered himself a film-maker: "I just had to wait 20 years before I officially got the job," he says.

At the core of Magnolia are the efforts to bring together a dying father (Robards) and his estranged son (Cruise), who is a guru in the sexual self-actualisation business (he gives seminars whose catch-phrase is 'respect the cock').

But there are a lot of other characters, too, played by such Anderson regulars as Julianne Moore, Philip Baker Hall, Philip Seymour Hoffman and John C Reilly (Anderson seems to prefer actors who, like him, have more than one first name).

"The number of characters just grew," he says. "I have a good habit ­ or a bad habit ­ of not letting anybody go by."

And anyway, working with actors is his greatest joy. Well, most actors. Not Burt Reynolds, who was in Boogie Nights and who is the only actor ever to have refused to do what Anderson asked him to do. "I've never had that before, not from any real actor," says the director. "He put everyone through so much. He's so mean."

"And Tom Cruise?" I ask quickly, my People magazine instinct surfacing.

"He isn't mean. He's my dreamboat," says Anderson.

Interestingly, it was Cruise who first approached Anderson after seeing Boogie Nights. Or rather, his agent called Anderson's agent. They met in London, where the director was promoting his new film and Cruise was shooting Eyes Wide Shut.

Anderson went away and created Cruise's character ­ TJ Mackey. The script was completed, Anderson called Cruise's agent and said, "OK. I'm ready." Then, he recalls, "it was like one of those Hollywood stories: he called me the next day."

Given the support he has had from DeLucca and now Cruise, does Anderson think perhaps he is blessed in some way? Or does he have a secret?

"Yes," he says, laughing happily, "I have a secret, and I'm not sharing it."

With Tom Cruise and Magnolia, fortunately, he has been more generous.

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